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![Hakha[reaper]](/media/avatar/100x0/upload/vida2.1170289297.jpg)
Registered Member #554
Joined: Tue Jan 30 2007, 10:44PMPosts: 10 |
I did say that exact thing to ninca.. "Shouldn't you be off sucking steels dick " because a couple of rounds before that he attacked me numerous times because i slayed him cause he tked me and all he was doing was running him mouth about how good you were. If you cant take a joke, get mad and tk me 3 times than what are you even doin playing on ftc. | ||
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| TwItcH |
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Registered Member #251
Joined: Wed May 10 2006, 10:47AMPosts: 227 |
Sry if i offended anyone, bleek i agree, i love FT and the "mature" players such as u, omni, omega, alex, and aborted were like the only reason i wanted to join FT. not to game, but for friends. i hope this never happens again :'( Peace Twitch (<3FT<3) |
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Anal Assassin
Registered Member #455
Joined: Mon Oct 09 2006, 04:58AMPosts: 3848 |
My last and final post in this thread will have nothing to do with Kever. I am on the other hand, glad we had this discussion. I dont think it hurt anybody cept Kever. (Im not saying thats a good thing). And i dont think we are being torn apart. yet i believe this will bring the community together as a whole even better. Now that we all understand eachother's logic. Im sure everyone has heard the term... Kiss and lets have make up sex. Well, we dont need to fuck, but i think we will all understand eachother better and learn from this instead. The saying goes... You can't learn or improve on something until it has happened. With that said, i hope everyone stays safe, and we will see you all, (hopefully Kever too), in the tank. Peace. |
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The Original MilfHunter
Registered Member #163
Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 02:24PMPosts: 1592 |
Alcohol-Powered wrote ... Of course you want the thread to die -- you got what you wanted so fuck everyone else, right? Noooo, I thought the vote was over and all of the discussion pertaining to Kever was over too. People are hijacking the thread to talk about Steel which is slightly off-track. Wouldn't you agree? "Fuck everyone else"? Rofl, I'm sure everyone who wanted to had the opportunity to discuss Kever's situation while the vote was active and like Bleek mentioned, its time to make closing remarks and peace and leave the arguing for another day. You want to continue the discussion so fine, I'll bite. Alcohol-Powered wrote ... I'm disappointed that your solution was to choose the path of least resistance, and even though your goal of getting Kever banned was not accomplished, the amount of controversy may be enough to prevent her from choosing to play on FTC again. Noooo, it was your choice to go through with the forum voteban. Remember when we discussed this on X-fire a few nights ago, I offered 2 compromises to the situation. The first compromise was this voteban thread, the second compromise was the 'path of least resistence' which you didn't take. For the record, my second compromise was that I would swallow my pride knowing that after a 3 hour X-fire convo that the server owner knows of my objections to Kever and all I asked for was a saying or phrase that I could bind to a key and use whenever Kever played and people complained. Compromise 2 was the path of least resistance which YOU didn't want and which instantly came off the table when you started this thread. I offered peace, you asked for war, so I put on my boots. Alcohol-Powered wrote ... I truly hope you consider the consequences of your logic. I offered 2 logical compromises. The car was behind door #2, you chose the 'mystery box' and got opera tickets. I feel no regret or remourse because my logic is sound. Logical: See a problem, try to fix it. Illogical: See a problem, ignore it and hope it goes away. Yup, logic agrees with me and I with it, we are homeboys from the same hood and we share 40's of O.E. and blunts on the regular not to mention I'm going out with logic's younger sister, Rationality, even though its tough to keep the dumb bitch satisfied. Alcohol-Powered wrote ... Unfortunately the only person I can ultimately blame for this is myself. I agreed to this "compromise" of having a referendum on whether Kever should be banned upon your suggestion. Damn straight its your fault. You shoulda taken Compromise #2 and given me a phrase that I could have bound to a key and pressed whenever someone complained about Kever. I'm not thinking of something on my own because I have some integrity and would rather eliminate the problem then try to deal with it. I presented Compromise #2 knowing that it wouldn't solve the problem, but that it was a way to at least use some 'top level admin influence' to lessen the level of complaints from players in-game. I was willing to swallow my pride on the matter knowing that YOU know the situation and leave the actual decision on the matter in your hands. As soon as this thread opened Compromise #2 was off the table and the shitstorm ensued. Alcohol-Powered wrote ... Hopefully she has not ultimately decided to leave, and realizes that there are regulars and admins willing to approach situations such as this with a more positive attitude than your "fuck it, ban her" tact. Keep in mind that Omni, an Op already banned her and Fetus and I voted to ban her in this thread. That's a significant chunk of the senior admins right there. And the fact that you won't even acknowledge Kever's presence as problematic makes we wonder how you managed to read through 6 pages on the matter without actually opening your eyes. Alcohol-Powered wrote ... I must say I am not content as a member of the "side" that voted "no" to this referendum. I would also like to offer my apology to Kever: I'm sorry that I agreed to this "compromise" and wish I had the foresight to realize that you would feel pressured to leave even though more voters prefer you were not banned. Yeah, I'm sorry too. I'm sorry that I replied to a PM from Alex when he asked my why I used console commands to intentionally drop Kever's weapon. I explained that it was a 2 vs Kever and I dropped her gun hoping that she would lose so that I wouldn't have to hear "Kever Hacks" at the end of the round. It was underhanded but at the same time, a small price to pay so that players and admins wouldn't have to endure more sly remarks. Fuck it, after 11 months of admining on FTC, you consider a dropped weapon 'abuse' then whatever. Yes, all of this was over "ma_cexec kever drop" and she dropped her AK yet still killed the last 2 CT's with a deagle anyways and there were STILL "hax" remarks,,, go figure. I acted in the best interests of the server and its population by infringing on Kever's play. It was a failed attempt to make her look "human" on one of her good nights. (Keep in mind that my ONLY beef with Kever is the fact that other people bitch about her.) I can be honest about it because I still know that my save percentage is 99.9%, my batting averate is .999, my earned run average is 0.01, my free throw percentage is 99.9%. So whatever, I acted to the best of my ability to make Kever look 'human' and to avoid some bitching. This is the level that my head works on and sometimes you gotta make the tough choices if you honestly think it is in everyone and the servers' best interests. I honestly thought that if all of the dead people say Kever lose a round, they would not be so quick to complain about hacks. Take it how you will, some will agree and some will disagree but at the end of the day, I'm a Patriot and I acted in the best interests of everyone whether you realize it or not. Bush went to Iraq at the expense of his name, to get the oil that we need to continue our standard of living. Hes a Patriot too and we are both cut from the same mold, whether you realize it or not. Oh, and if you're wondering, my Ego is in the coat check. Alcohol-Powered wrote ... Hopefully you, Goose, will continue your tireless work of promoting "a smoother operating server" by pushing to ban regulars such as Steel. Keep up the good work. Well lets see here. You wanna step into my head and come onto my level of thought process? Fine. Lets take a look at the senior admins to better illustrate my position... Fetus rarely plays. Omega gives cash to All, not the losing side and plays under various alias' and played under a dstR. tag. Omni played under a dstR. tag too and the night this thread started, he dropped the vote "has Office lost its dynamics?" Options were..yea; Ts ALWAYS camp, no, idc on a FULL 24/7 Office server. You only put in 24 hours of play this year and I can't approach you on X-Fire to ask/tell you anything because the last time I did that You and Fetus accosted me asking "Where does your loyalty lay, with the FT clan or with the FTC server?" I will save the fragile minds by not going into detail, but I saved the logs if you want to refresh your memory. And that was back in Oct. I went on X-Fire again a few nights ago and what happens??? This thread! So yeah, I took it upon myself to 'step up' and fill out the lead admin role by playing on FTC when I really didn't want to just so I could help YOU out while you're working and can't get on because of the 'lack-luster' approach by the rest of the senior staff. I take time out of my schedule to ensure that the server is running smooth in your absence and I bring a legit concern to the table and I get shit on for it. If you really have a problem with me or you think that I am in any way detremental to the server, then just say the word and I'll resign all admin responsabilities for the greater good of the server and I'll do it as quick as I can. I am willing to take the necessary steps, whether that is with regards to Kever or with regards to myself. How many other admins can honestly say that? Most people who want or ask for admin do so to attain power and influence. I could care less about either if the server is full and happy and only abuse either for the betterment of the server (in this instance ^^). I didn't apply to be a surf admin this time around because I recognized that FTC may need a bit more help because its rough around the edges and the new admin procedure that will be launched this weekend couldn't come sooner. I don't just take it too far, I take it all the way, anything less is just not far enough. I've got a test tomorrow(later on today) worth 33% of my mark but I'm here dealing with this fucking shit. Believe me, there are other things I could be doing so if my efforts are not appreciated, just let me know. Oh and before I forget, Congratz Alex! I've been registered on forums for almost a year now and you finally won an argument, nice way to gloat and rub it in with your last post, you wouldn't just let it die and you had to attack me again eh, nice. You finally made it on the board and its not hard to keep count when the score was Goose: All, Alex: None. In closing, I'm a fuckin Patriot and I bleed fish guts, but if you think I'm in any way detremental to server operations, just say the word and I'll hand in a resignation tomorrow, cuz I'm pissed and I ain't shittin'. Edited Thu Feb 01 2007, 08:39AM |
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| Jesus[tzahal] |
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Registered Member #530
Joined: Wed Jan 03 2007, 10:56PMPosts: 807 |
Sorry to interrupt your FT debates, but if Hakha reads this: i wasnt bragging or shooting you earlier rounds. If i shot you, thats because you shot me for no reason. To Bubble: do you have a problem with me? When you make me say things like i rub your chest, i have no problem with it, I just dont think that other people know its you saying it for me, and that causes problems for me. This hasnt happened recently, but it may have caused a problem. Unless provoked, I don't have anything negative to say unless its a joke, which usually ends with ":P" or another smiley of some sort. To wrap this up: Kever and I played here because its a 24/7 Office server with no AWPs. We became regulars, because we were safe from admins banning us because they THINK we hack. Kever asked me to join her in a search for other servers, and when i go to other servers, i get banned 10 mins after joining....honestly.. I joined the .BAD. server, and ive been banned 3 times already in the past 48 hours. I think the last one was perma though. It's ridiculous how people cannot tolerate Kever because of her score. She simply kills two people, and if she takes damage she hides in the back for the rest of the round, so she doesn't get a death. It cannot be more simple. If you are on the T side, and you are winning, it is so easy to stay alive, and thats how you grow your score. Personally I am impatient, so I run out with 12 hp to my death, but Kever is patient and will wait it out. And when we clear 7 people in a round, I've seen Wildcard do it. Does that mean he hacks? No, it means he had the chance to kill 7 because he took the right route and got them from behind, or took out the only player that knew he was there. If people looked at how we play they would realize that its not hacking, and then they wouldn't have to TK me for these accusations, then I wouldn't have to be a dick back to everyone. I still hop on FT every so often and the last two times I have had no problems with any of the admins/regs, so this thread has turned into a FT admin discussion, which I will stay out of now, but to Hakha.. dont shoot me because you think I hack, and I won't shoot you back. |
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Inconsistant Ownage Device
Registered Member #59
Joined: Sat Dec 10 2005, 06:12PMPosts: 1058 |
Hmm seems like Goose finally had enough, but since you decided to go down slinging shit at some other people ill defend myself. Yes, I played under a dstR. tag which has no relation to FT, are you questioning my loyalty to FT? Ive been in FT since the beginning, and have put in more admin hours then anyone else, and as to changing my name, I had no idea playing under a different name undermined my admin abilities.Oh lets not mention Legoless, Nigh, etc. or anyone else who changes their name. I give money to all? yeah I used to, by the reasoning that the losing team needs money, the winning team already has money, so it doesnt make a different and stops them from bitching about not getting it. I like to see teams win or lose because of their skill, not because of what they can afford. Money for all puts them on an equal playing field, and like i said, the winning team already has money, so it doesnt matter. Never the less ive cut down on that and only give to the losing team, most of the time. Im not going to get into this debate any further as I know something bad will happen between Alex and I, as it always does, and Goose, please dont see this as an attack on you, I still love ya, and think your a good admin, I just wanted to explain my self. | ||
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Registered Member #251
Joined: Wed May 10 2006, 10:47AM Posts: 227 |
good explanation ;D i think you all have good points, and we are all maturing people. we now see what real life outside of CSS is like through this incident. THERE ARE MANY CHOICES. and not just one is right. i hope we all learned a valuble lessen out of this, and if you havnt, maybe your not mature enough for the FT clan |
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Registered Member #185
Joined: Thu Mar 30 2006, 10:42PMPosts: 3167 |
Goose, most of your reasoning is logical, but "what is best for FT" was not you dropping kever's weapon, because people saying "h4x" is not a huge deal. just because people say OMG KEVER HACKS, that does not mean FTC is shutting down tomorrow. one of the only flaws, but a huge one, in your logic. |
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Registered Member #381
Joined: Wed Aug 09 2006, 08:21PMPosts: 405 |
god damn it. | ||
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The Original MilfHunter
Registered Member #163
Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 02:24PM Posts: 1592 |
Steel: I don't think that anyone actually thought that you were 'gay' because we were joking around and talking dirty that time. Nothing that was said is any different that what you would see in the chatbox any given day. Cocks are cool, we all have at least 1 of them. ":P" Nostie: If "saying "h4x" is not a huge deal", then why did we even bother with this thread? I think that the line of reasoning was logical, it was the execution that came up short. O'Mega: I wasn't trying to single out any senior admin, I was adressing the whole lot. It still baffles me as to why you and Omni would only wear a dstR. tag and not at least take it off when coming into FTC? Krem even started a vote in the Community clan and it was voted in favor to only allow the FT, F7L5 and I believe the DAWG tag as well. It just looked bad when admins wore another clan tag altogether, but I'm not trying to start another debate or single anyone out, I'm just saying that the culmination of all of the mentioned factors by the whole senior admin staff led me to believe that I should spend some more time playing, that's all. And the name changing thing, well, Night made a thread to say that he was changing his name to Legolas and admins don't actually change their names without cause, but I guess it really doesn't matter at this point, I just wanted to defend my statements is all. Sorry if I offended you Omega or if I offended any other senior admin. It was simply my intention to show that nobody is perfect and to put my actions in perspective as it pertains to everyone else. Sorry again cuz your a good guyand I was obviously pissed at,,, everything. Is my flaw of loving FTC too much that big of a deal? If so, my offer still stands. Omega wrote ... I give money to all? yeah I used to, by the reasoning that the losing team needs money, the winning team already has money, so it doesnt make a different and stops them from bitching about not getting it. Nice to see I'm not the only admin who doesn't like to hear disruptive bitching.  I was under the impression that admins that were entrusted with more abilities also had more duties along with the kicking of TKers and balancing teams... I thought that we were alloted more responsability to do what was in the best interests of the server and as Omega points out, sometimes you just gotta go with your gut and hope that you're right. If you're not right, hopefully the situation gets handled a bit better than this one was... Thanx for the responses thus far but I'm still waiting on Alex's word. Kinda sucks it has to be aired out in such a public domain, but hey. Edited Fri Feb 02 2007, 12:51AM |
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