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Anal Assassin
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EDITED I previously said that I will be rewriting the membership voting process to make it a bit more modern and "revival" friendly. Bubble Goose will still get SUBSTANTIAL credit as this is significantly based off of his with a few major/minor tweaks. I encourage FT MEMBERS and ADMINS to comment a bit and discuss this. I personally feel this is a pretty solid and fair constitution. We want to gain new players and make it easier for the migration over to CS:GO. Once this is officially made official (lol), it will go into effect IMMEDIATELY. It will count for CS:S until the complete migration over to CS:GO. The rules will continue to apply for CS:GO and hours spent on FT servers will only count for CS:GO (we can have a short grace period where both games count). Without further adieu... Fish Tank Voting System ___________________________________________________________ ______________________ Minimum Requirements for a Fish Tank Membership Fish Tank prospects have TWO (2) options available to them... You could either: Achieve 30 server hours AND 100 active forum posts Achieve 50 server hours AND 30 active forum posts Active meaning posts in threads that are no older than TWO (2) weeks from the date of your initial post. This is the BARE minimum to be considered a regular. Returning Player Courtesy: 25 server hours AND 15 active forum posts Grounds for a Termination May include but is not limited too: - Disregard for rules and tarnishing of the FT image. - General disrespect or hate towards other members of FT, ANY sub-clan, or regulars. - Major abuse of admin powers whether on forums or in servers. - Game AND forum inactivity greater than two (2) months WITHOUT a "Leave the Light On" thread. Fish Tank Bill of Rights I. The Fish Tank membership voting process is a Democracy. Voting is strongly encouraged...it is your Fish Tank right. Every member is allowed ONE (1) vote. You may NOT vote for someone else. No absentee votes will be allowed. II. A simple "yes" or "no" vote should suffice. If you feel you need to give a reason explaining your vote or have any relative comments to add, PLEASE TRY TO USE ONE (1) POST and please keep it short and simple. Any additional posts that lead to a massive discussion and cluttered proposal thread will be deleted by a moderator. You can always go back and edit. III. Only a Fish Tank member can start a Nomination/Termination proposal. Each member can only have ONE (1) Nomination and ONE (1) Termination going at any given time. The proposal must be started in the "Open Proposals" sub-forum in the FT Community Clan forum. IV. It is the responsibility of the proposal starter to count the votes, publicly declare a pass or fail in a new thread, and close (not delete) the proposal thread. Edit and add "CLOSED" in parenthesis at the end of the title to signal a moderator. He/she will then move the thread to the appropriate forum which will be the "Closed Proposals" forum. V. Nomination & Termination proposals will last for FIVE (5) days. Votes cast within those five days will officially be counted. Any votes cast AFTER the five day voting period will NOT be counted and will be disregarded. VI. Any Nomination proposal must have a minimum of FIVE (5) votes cast and must have THREE (3) more "yes" votes than "no" votes. Any Termination proposal must also follow the same requirements. VII. A proposal cannot be made requesting changes to any FT server's operation, admin list, mapcycle, etc... That is beyond the scope of the clan. Server operation is up to server owners and operators. Proposals that deal with the above aforementioned will be declared invalid and closed by moderators. Thread will be moved accordingly. VIII. Returning player courtesy will START only after the returning player makes a thread declaring he/she is retuning to play, be active, and wants to rejoin FT. A forum moderator will add an Edit stating what the current hours/posts are and any subsequent number will go towards the total. IX. Any new server that is run by an [FT] member and wishes for it to be associated/affiliated/inducted into the [FT] clan and community should be taken to a Vote and decided upon by the clan. If the server is accepted by way of a successful simple majority (more yes votes than no votes), the server should have the words 'Fish Tank' in the name/title as a recognition of the server's affiliation with the clan/community. X. Any sub-clan that wants to be affiliated with the website must also go through a successful simple-majority (51%) vote. Old sub-clans such as F7L5, 9²5, and noFear will be grandfathered in. Rules to become part of said sub-clan will be dealt with by the sub-clan and they will have their own membership process. However, Fish Tank forum netiquette and respect must be upheld regardless otherwise affiliation will be terminated and sub-forums deleted. XI. Amendments to this Constitution MUST be openly discussed first amongst the clan in the FT Community Clan forum. A member, preferably the one who started the discussion, must make an Amendment Proposal thread in the Open Proposals forum. It should have the official text of the proposed Amendment and no explanation as the discussion has already happened. It must have a minimum of 5 votes cast and have THREE (3) more yes votes than no votes. It will be officially open for FIVE (5) days. New Amendments go into effect immediately upon declaration of passing which will be stated in a new thread. Same thread closing procedures will occur. A moderator will add the new Amendment to this post immediately. Any Amendments passed during the time another proposal is open will NOT be counted towards said open proposal. EDIT: Amendment XI would go into effect AFTER the OFFICIAL thread stating the Constitution. Amendment XI can still be discussed here. Edited Wed Jul 18 2012, 03:07PM |
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Meteor 2016
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gLiTch wrote ... I previously said that I will be rewriting the membership voting process to make it a bit more modern and "revival" friendly. Bubble Goose will still get SUBSTANTIAL credit as this is significantly based off of his with a few major/minor tweaks. I encourage FT MEMBERS and ADMINS to comment a bit and discuss this. I personally feel this is a pretty solid and fair constitution. We want to gain new players and make it easier for the migration over to CS:GO. Once this is officially made official (lol), it will go into effect IMMEDIATELY. It will count for CS:S until the complete migration over to CS:GO. The rules will continue to apply for CS:GO and hours spent on FT servers will only count for CS:GO (we can have a short grace period where both games count). Without further adieu... Fish Tank Membership Voting System ___________________________________________________________ ______________________ Minimum Requirements for a Fish Tank Membership Option 1: 30 server hours AND 100 active forum posts Option 2: 65 server hours AND 35 active forum posts Active meaning posts in threads that are no older than TWO (2) weeks from the date of your initial post. Returning Player Courtesy: 25 server hours AND 15 active forum posts Grounds for a Termination May include but is not limited too: - Disregard for rules and tarnishing of the FT image. - General disrespect or hate towards other members of FT, ANY sub-clan, or regulars. - Major abuse of admin powers whether on forums or in servers. - Game AND forum inactivity greater than two (2) months WITHOUT a "Leave the Light On" thread. Voting Constitution 1. The Fish Tank membership voting process is a Democracy. Voting is strongly encouraged...it is your Fish Tank right. Every member is allowed ONE (1) vote. You may NOT vote for someone else. No absentee votes will be allowed. 2. A simple "yes" or "no" vote should suffice. If you feel you need to give a reason explaining your vote or have any relative comments to add, USE ONE (1) POST and please keep it short and simple. Any additional posts will be deleted by a moderator. You can always go back and edit. 3. Only a Fish Tank member can start a Nomination/Termination proposal. Each member can only have ONE (1) proposal going at a time regardless if it is a Nomination or Termination. The proposal must be started in the "Open Proposals" sub-forum in the FT Community Clan forum. 4. It is the responsibility of the proposal starter to count the votes, publicly declare a pass or fail in a new thread, and close (not delete) the proposal thread. Edit and add "CLOSED" in parenthesis at the end of the title to signal a moderator. He/she will then move the thread to the appropriate forum which will be the "Closed Proposals" forum. 5. Nomination & Termination proposals will last for SEVEN (7) days. Votes cast within those seven days will officially be counted. Any votes cast AFTER the seven day voting period will NOT be counted and will be thrown out. 6. Any Nomination proposal must reach a super-majority of 2/3 yes votes in order to pass with a minimum of 12 votes cast. Any Termination proposal must reach a super-majority of 4/5 yes votes in order to pass with a minimum of 16 votes cast. 7. A proposal cannot be made requesting changes to any FT server's operation, admin list, mapcycle, etc... That is beyond the scope of the clan. Server operation is up to server owners and operators. Proposals that deal with the above aforementioned will be declared invalid and closed by moderators. Thread will be moved accordingly. 8. Returning player courtesy will START only after the returning player makes a thread declaring he/she is retuning to play, be active, and wants to rejoin FT. A forum moderator will add an Edit stating what the current hours/posts are and any subsequent number will go towards the total. 9. Any new server that is run by an [FT] member and wishes for it to be associated/affiliated/inducted into the [FT] clan and community should be taken to a Vote and decided upon by the clan. If the server is accepted by way of a successful 2/3 super-majority, the server should have the words 'Fish Tank' in the name/title as a recognition of the server's affiliation with the clan/community. 10. Any sub-clan that wants to be affiliated with the website must also go through a successful simple-majority (51%) vote. Old sub-clans such as F7L5, 9²5, and noFear will be grandfathered in. Rules to become part of said sub-clan will be dealt with by the sub-clan and they will have their own membership process. However, Fish Tank forum netiquette and respect must be upheld regardless otherwise affiliation will be terminated and sub-forums deleted. For playtime, I was thinking along the lines of 30-50 hours of playtime. We want to get new members, but we also want them to be legit/serious. Forum posts can stay at 30, I believe that's what they were in the past. 1. I agree with option 1. 2. I disagree. While I understand that your intentions are to reduce clutter, if person A votes no and gives a reason, and person B responds by disagreeing with some good points, person A is going to want to have a rebuttal and it just wouldn't make sense if everyone kept editing their argument in the same post. It would cause confusion. 3. OK 4. OK 5. I disagree here. If we are trying to move people in quicker then we would want to use the current 6 day format. 6. OK 7. OK 8. OK 9. OK 10. OK |
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Anal Assassin
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Updated with Amendment 11. | ||
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Meteor 2016
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gLiTch wrote ... 11. Amendments to this Constitution MUST be openly discussed first amongst the clan in the FT Community Clan forum. A member, preferably the one who started the discussion, must make an Amendment Proposal thread in the Open Proposals forum. It should have the official text of the proposed Amendment and no explanation as the discussion has already happened. It must have a minimum of 16 votes cast and reach a super-majority of 2/3 yes votes in order to pass. It will be officially open for SEVEN (7) days. New Amendments goes into effect immediately upon declaration of passing which will be stated in a new thread. Same thread closing procedures will occur. A moderator will add the new Amendment here immediately. Any Amendments passed during the time another proposal is open will NOT be counted towards said open proposal. You're talking about in the future once it is set in stone right? Because right now...Having 11 different possible threads, maybe more, not a good idea. |
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Anal Assassin
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The reason i put down two options is because i figured we could cater to different types of people. I got the idea from the "dead server" era we just came out of. Vectorman's situation influenced me as he stuck around and was very active even though we had a dying clan with no servers. I consider him a strong, dedicated, and serious regular as i see him more than i see other members. We can fiddle with the hours and posts but i just figured it was good to have options. Some might only be able to play a bit here and there but are very active on the forums i.e. at work or on the go. I figured they would be very much a part of this community as this IS a two part community. If im not mistaken Knight, you will be active on forums but not so much on the server come sometime soon. Edited Tue Jul 10 2012, 03:05AM |
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Anal Assassin
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Knightrider wrote ... gLiTch wrote ... 11. Amendments to this Constitution MUST be openly discussed first amongst the clan in the FT Community Clan forum. A member, preferably the one who started the discussion, must make an Amendment Proposal thread in the Open Proposals forum. It should have the official text of the proposed Amendment and no explanation as the discussion has already happened. It must have a minimum of 16 votes cast and reach a super-majority of 2/3 yes votes in order to pass. It will be officially open for SEVEN (7) days. New Amendments goes into effect immediately upon declaration of passing which will be stated in a new thread. Same thread closing procedures will occur. A moderator will add the new Amendment here immediately. Any Amendments passed during the time another proposal is open will NOT be counted towards said open proposal. You're talking about in the future once it is set in stone right? Because right now...Having 11 different possible threads, maybe more, not a good idea. Yes that is in the future lol. This whole thread is mainly an open discussion and will be deleted upon an agreement and restated in a new official thread. Edited Tue Jul 10 2012, 02:50AM |
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Meteor 2016
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gLiTch wrote ... The reason i put down two options is because i figured we could cater to different types of people. I got the idea from the "dead server" era we just came out of. Vectorman gave me the idea as he stuck around and was very active even though we had a dying clan with no servers. I consider him a strong, dedicated, and serious regular as i see him more than i see other members. We can fiddle with the hours and posts but i just figured it was good to have options. Some might only be able to play a bit here and there but are very active on the forums i.e. at work or on the go. I figured they were very much a part of this community as this IS a two part community. If im not mistaken Knight, you will be active on forums but not so much on the server come sometime soon. Right, and that's why the post count should be down because a lot of people are stubborn to post on the forums...I remember the 30 post requirement being a big deal. Obviously, most of our likeability of that person is in-game, because you get to hear their personality more through the mic (which I think is pretty crucial in voting you in.) The person between their chair and keyboard can lie a lot in the content of their posts. |
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Knightrider wrote ... gLiTch wrote ... The reason i put down two options is because i figured we could cater to different types of people. I got the idea from the "dead server" era we just came out of. Vectorman gave me the idea as he stuck around and was very active even though we had a dying clan with no servers. I consider him a strong, dedicated, and serious regular as i see him more than i see other members. We can fiddle with the hours and posts but i just figured it was good to have options. Some might only be able to play a bit here and there but are very active on the forums i.e. at work or on the go. I figured they were very much a part of this community as this IS a two part community. If im not mistaken Knight, you will be active on forums but not so much on the server come sometime soon. Right, and that's why the post count should be down because a lot of people are stubborn to post on the forums...I remember the 30 post requirement being a big deal. Obviously, most of our likeability of that person is in-game, because you get to hear their personality more through the mic (which I think is pretty crucial in voting you in.) The person between their chair and keyboard can lie a lot in the content of their posts. Ok so let me get this cleared up...lol.. You like the idea of options correct? You agree with Option 1. Option 2 should have 50 hours and somewhere around 25 posts or maybe less? Edited Tue Jul 10 2012, 03:15AM |
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Meteor 2016
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50 hours and 30 posts. I have halved the hour requirement, that is all. | ||
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Anal Assassin
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Knightrider wrote ... 50 hours and 30 posts. I have halved the hour requirement, that is all. Done. And I encourage everyone to speak up and put forward any/all ideas for this. |
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